One of the blogs that i follow is a general gold making blog called Caffeine, Smokes and Auction House Fees, who has just announced his plans for what he will be doing after he hits his single character gold cap of 999,999, has got me thinking as to what i would do if i were to hit my milestone of a lowly 200,000.
Now i dont have big dreams in wow like getting vial of the sands on all my toons. heck, only one toon has super fast 310% flying, and thats my miner (with crusader aura!). and most of them do not have big fancy items. only one toon has a mechano-hog. i am somewhat of a very frugal person in this game. i dont spend too much gold and what i do have, i save up. the only times i actually spend a lot of gold is when i am buying ore to prospect, or herbs to mill, or frozen orbs to make who knows what. ;)
But i do find myself getting closer to my goals. if i keep up what im currently doing, i will have 200k gold by the end of the month. now i do only play the AH when nothing else interest me. lately, heroics are a blah, raiding is nil, farming is even blah-er. i barely want to log on and when i do, its really just to play with my girlfriend and play the AH. i dont even do professions anymore. I still have to level up my leatherworking, my enchanting and my tailoring. I have alchemy maxed, inscription almost maxed, bs maxed and jc maxed. i really do not need to try to make gold from LW/Tailoring enchants or from enchanting itself (the dust/essences sell well already). getting closer to my goals will mean one of two things: i will do something else or i will continue to make gold on the AH.
now there are more paths to take when i do move on, like how many "something else" can i list and do? or if i continue making gold, will it still be as a JC? or will i try to dive into other markets? if i dont care too much about returns, should i even bother with going into a "lucrative" market?
If i were to move on to other markets but still play within the AH, i would have to be OK with collecting less gold each day. this is fine with me, so long as i make sales. i think the only thing that bothers me more than not finding crafting mats in the AH when i need it, is to find expired auctions in my mailbox. i love the feeling of having a sale, whether it be for 5g or 50g. now 50g is better, but 5g isnt too bad at all. at least i removed a useless item from my inventory... that's my thinking anyway. I can go into enchanting, but i'll still have to rely on my jewelcrafter to supply a lot of my mats. My leatherworker can make leg enchants but it does look like the mats cost just as much as the final product. there's a lot of competition out there and perhaps finding the right market to list items in can be a game in and of itself. currently, my tailor is making bags because spellthread doesnt make positive gold. my leatherworker is on hold because there's no positive gold potential there either. my scribe is pulling in about 200g a day on glyphs (yes, sadly) but does slowly sell infernal inks.
Update: I wrote this post several weeks ago and thought that i published it. however, it looks like its been missing and i never realized. =D
I jsut wanted to say that i am at about $170,000 gold and ready for that final stretch. the last couple of weeks have seen quite a slow down in the gem market. everyone seems to be done farming the troll dungeons and sales have dropped quite significantly. This isnt to say that i havent been selling. Gems arent selling so well (although i still make about 2k a day, down from 3-5k a day). but i've been selling bags, enchants and various pvp items. these net me about 2-5k for the whole week. I've also been on my second server working on some things so that's been taking up a lot of time too.
For bags. i see netherweaves, frostweaves and otherworldly bags. the otherworldly bags sell slowly so i sometimes have to bark it in trade, for significantly lower than the AH (about 50g). but that's still a hefty profit per bag.
In terms of enchants, i've made some leg enchants (both from LW and tailoring) and post those 5 at a time on the AH. they sell slowly as well. i often have to repost these things several times to sell them all.
Overall, things have slowed and it seems people are busy rifting or leveling alts. now i have to figure out how to profit from all the alts!
But i think after my push to $200K is over, i will simply make gold just to cover costs. oh and maybe spend it on a mount, or two. =D
Showing posts with label gold. Show all posts
Showing posts with label gold. Show all posts
Wednesday, June 8, 2011
Tuesday, May 31, 2011
Update on gold
Just wanted to give a quick update about my gold making: It tanked. I ended up with the same amount of gold i started with earlier this week. Sales sucked. Some gems got sold, but not nearly enough. Actually i wasnt on long enough to monitor my sales even. I went out often. But when i was on, i barely had time to actually play. I was prospecting, cutting gems, making rings/pendants/spikes, disenchanting those rings/pendants/spikes. got a few herbs down and got a few xmutes done. I need a break. i still have 250 more ores sitting in my in-box waiting to be prospected. maybe then i'll have just a few more demonseyes, inferno rubies and ember topazes to cut and sell.
but for now, i've cut all of my ember topazes, demonseyes and just about out of inferno rubies. still. sales have waned just a bit. actually the number of sales are still steady. but the prices have dropped over the past couple of weeks. sales that did drop in numbers are the shadowspirit diamond sales. i have maybe 8 cuts and most of them did not sell.
so overall, this week has seen almost no change in gold, but i do have a ton of ore waiting to be prospected. that will happen after i recover from the saronite shuffle.... er... i mean elementium shuffle? yea, that's it!
but for now, i've cut all of my ember topazes, demonseyes and just about out of inferno rubies. still. sales have waned just a bit. actually the number of sales are still steady. but the prices have dropped over the past couple of weeks. sales that did drop in numbers are the shadowspirit diamond sales. i have maybe 8 cuts and most of them did not sell.
so overall, this week has seen almost no change in gold, but i do have a ton of ore waiting to be prospected. that will happen after i recover from the saronite shuffle.... er... i mean elementium shuffle? yea, that's it!
Wednesday, May 25, 2011
200 x 200
200. That's about how many shadowspirit diamonds i have in my inventory.
200. That's how much i can sell the cut ones for, on average. (ranging from 100g to 350g)
40,000. That's 200 x 200. Thats how much im short of my goal for Cata.
Currently, im sitting at about 160k gold with less than a week to go before the month is over. usually, i can probably get about 20k gold in a week. but not lately. it looks like things have been slowing down quite a bit. i am hoping that the weekend will bring the bored, the lonely and the less frugal out to play. being that, in the US, it's memorial day weekend, i may have a spike in sales. time to DE all the alicite pendants and jasper rings and sell the mats! Although i know 200 people will not want all my 200 shadowspirit diamonds, i do know that there will be a good number of people wanting to buy gems for their upgrades this weekend. i may have to collect my mailbag june 1st or 2nd to see the final result. hopefully, i would have met my mark of 200k gold by then. if not, there's always next week.
Besides the shadowspirit diamonds, i have quite a few dream emeralds and amberjewels in stock. i am very short on all the other gems (maybe except ocean sapphires) and it is slowly biting into my potential profit. so what's a man to do? be adventurous and herb. my druid has been flying around deepholm for heartblossoms lately, to transmute with carnellians to make inferno rubies. i'll be sending her to twilight highlands and then to hyjal in order to collect mats to make demonseyes and ember topazes. Hopefully, that will help break the 200k mark. but time is limited and the day is slow creeping upon me. it's best to hurry.
in other news: inscription is slow, leatherworking is slow, blacksmithing is slow and even farming is slow.
regarding alts: i have alliances now. they suck but are slowly leveling up. it appears there is a larger number of new players on alliance side. perhaps it is where first timers join up as. eventually, they will switch over to horde (or not) and that makes leveling hordeside a little smoother. im not saying we dont have our short bus crew too--we do! but i am saying i see less of it hordeside than alliance side.
case in point, my warrior, now mid level 30s, is in a guild of about 300 people. the mesage of the day says something similar to this: "Welcome to! Every please buy pvp gear or you wont survive in heroics!"
The exact quote must be screenshotted. I will follow up with that soon.
200. That's how much i can sell the cut ones for, on average. (ranging from 100g to 350g)
40,000. That's 200 x 200. Thats how much im short of my goal for Cata.
Currently, im sitting at about 160k gold with less than a week to go before the month is over. usually, i can probably get about 20k gold in a week. but not lately. it looks like things have been slowing down quite a bit. i am hoping that the weekend will bring the bored, the lonely and the less frugal out to play. being that, in the US, it's memorial day weekend, i may have a spike in sales. time to DE all the alicite pendants and jasper rings and sell the mats! Although i know 200 people will not want all my 200 shadowspirit diamonds, i do know that there will be a good number of people wanting to buy gems for their upgrades this weekend. i may have to collect my mailbag june 1st or 2nd to see the final result. hopefully, i would have met my mark of 200k gold by then. if not, there's always next week.
Besides the shadowspirit diamonds, i have quite a few dream emeralds and amberjewels in stock. i am very short on all the other gems (maybe except ocean sapphires) and it is slowly biting into my potential profit. so what's a man to do? be adventurous and herb. my druid has been flying around deepholm for heartblossoms lately, to transmute with carnellians to make inferno rubies. i'll be sending her to twilight highlands and then to hyjal in order to collect mats to make demonseyes and ember topazes. Hopefully, that will help break the 200k mark. but time is limited and the day is slow creeping upon me. it's best to hurry.
in other news: inscription is slow, leatherworking is slow, blacksmithing is slow and even farming is slow.
regarding alts: i have alliances now. they suck but are slowly leveling up. it appears there is a larger number of new players on alliance side. perhaps it is where first timers join up as. eventually, they will switch over to horde (or not) and that makes leveling hordeside a little smoother. im not saying we dont have our short bus crew too--we do! but i am saying i see less of it hordeside than alliance side.
case in point, my warrior, now mid level 30s, is in a guild of about 300 people. the mesage of the day says something similar to this: "Welcome to
The exact quote must be screenshotted. I will follow up with that soon.
Monday, May 16, 2011
Goal of 200k Gold for Cata
One of the blogs that i follow is a general gold making blog called Caffeine, Smokes and Auction House Fess, who has just announced his plans for what he will be doing after he hits his single character gold cap of 999,999, has got me thinking as to what i would do if i were to hit my milestone of a lowly 200,000.
Now i dont have big dreams in wow like getting vial of the sands on all my toons. heck, only one toon has super fast 310% flying, and thats my miner (with crusader aura!). and most of them do not have big fancy items. only one toon has a mechano-hog. i am somewhat of a very frugal person in this game. i dont spend too much gold and what i do have, i save up. the only times i actually spend a lot of gold is when i am buying ore to prospect, or herbs to mill, or frozen orbs to make who knows what. ;)
But i do find myself getting closer to my goals. if i keep up what im currently doing, i will have 200k gold by the end of the month. now i do only play the AH when nothing else interest me. lately, heroics are a blah, raiding is nil, farming is even blah-er. i barely want to log on and when i do, its really just to play with my girlfriend and play the AH. i dont even do professions anymore. I still have to level up my leatherworking, my enchanting and my tailoring. I have alchemy maxed, inscription almost maxed, bs maxed and jc maxed. i really do not need to try to make gold from LW/Tailoring enchants or from enchanting itself (the dust/essences sell well already). getting closer to my goals will mean one of two things: i will do something else or i will continue to make gold on the AH.
now there are more paths to take when i do move on, like how many "something else" can i list and do? or if i continue making gold, will it still be as a JC? or will i try to dive into other markets? if i dont care too much about returns, should i even bother with going into a "lucrative" market?
If i were to move on to other markets but still play within the AH, i would have to be OK with collecting less gold each day. this is fine with me, so long as i make sales. i think the only thing that bothers me more than not finding crafting mats in the AH when i need it, is to find expired auctions in my mailbox. i love the feeling of having a sale, whether it be for 5g or 50g. now 50g is better, but 5g isnt too bad at all. at least i removed a useless item from my inventory... that's my thinking anyway. I can go into enchanting, but i'll still have to rely on my jewelcrafter to supply a lot of my mats. My leatherworker can make leg enchants but it does look like the mats cost just as much as the final product. there's a lot of competition out there and perhaps finding the right market to list items in can be a game in and of itself. currently, my tailor is making bags because spellthread doesnt make positive gold. my leatherworker is on hold because there's no positive gold potential there either. my scribe is pulling in about 200g a day on glyphs (yes, sadly) but does slowly sell infernal inks.
Overall, it looks like there isnt much to work with besides gems. but gems can be fickle and many people have tried to enter into this market. its a market with a lot of potential and a lot of competition. My mantra is usually, if i put up 5k gold in sale items, im sure to get about 2k gold in sales. what doesnt sell can be relisted. that's easy for a market with a lot of turnover. but in a market where things are relatively stale (compared to gems), like leg enchants. but if pants are replaced as often as belts (belt buckles) and headpieces (meta gems), then why not. why not offer up some decent leg enchants and make a couple hundred gold a day? i dont know. it would greatly simplify my life and lower the time i need to spend at the AH.
Finally, i am slowly getting to the 200k mark. my plans to reach it by month-end is steady unless i end up taking a few days break. even if i dont reach that goal, i figured it's a whole lot better than not trying at all.
Now i dont have big dreams in wow like getting vial of the sands on all my toons. heck, only one toon has super fast 310% flying, and thats my miner (with crusader aura!). and most of them do not have big fancy items. only one toon has a mechano-hog. i am somewhat of a very frugal person in this game. i dont spend too much gold and what i do have, i save up. the only times i actually spend a lot of gold is when i am buying ore to prospect, or herbs to mill, or frozen orbs to make who knows what. ;)
But i do find myself getting closer to my goals. if i keep up what im currently doing, i will have 200k gold by the end of the month. now i do only play the AH when nothing else interest me. lately, heroics are a blah, raiding is nil, farming is even blah-er. i barely want to log on and when i do, its really just to play with my girlfriend and play the AH. i dont even do professions anymore. I still have to level up my leatherworking, my enchanting and my tailoring. I have alchemy maxed, inscription almost maxed, bs maxed and jc maxed. i really do not need to try to make gold from LW/Tailoring enchants or from enchanting itself (the dust/essences sell well already). getting closer to my goals will mean one of two things: i will do something else or i will continue to make gold on the AH.
now there are more paths to take when i do move on, like how many "something else" can i list and do? or if i continue making gold, will it still be as a JC? or will i try to dive into other markets? if i dont care too much about returns, should i even bother with going into a "lucrative" market?
If i were to move on to other markets but still play within the AH, i would have to be OK with collecting less gold each day. this is fine with me, so long as i make sales. i think the only thing that bothers me more than not finding crafting mats in the AH when i need it, is to find expired auctions in my mailbox. i love the feeling of having a sale, whether it be for 5g or 50g. now 50g is better, but 5g isnt too bad at all. at least i removed a useless item from my inventory... that's my thinking anyway. I can go into enchanting, but i'll still have to rely on my jewelcrafter to supply a lot of my mats. My leatherworker can make leg enchants but it does look like the mats cost just as much as the final product. there's a lot of competition out there and perhaps finding the right market to list items in can be a game in and of itself. currently, my tailor is making bags because spellthread doesnt make positive gold. my leatherworker is on hold because there's no positive gold potential there either. my scribe is pulling in about 200g a day on glyphs (yes, sadly) but does slowly sell infernal inks.
Overall, it looks like there isnt much to work with besides gems. but gems can be fickle and many people have tried to enter into this market. its a market with a lot of potential and a lot of competition. My mantra is usually, if i put up 5k gold in sale items, im sure to get about 2k gold in sales. what doesnt sell can be relisted. that's easy for a market with a lot of turnover. but in a market where things are relatively stale (compared to gems), like leg enchants. but if pants are replaced as often as belts (belt buckles) and headpieces (meta gems), then why not. why not offer up some decent leg enchants and make a couple hundred gold a day? i dont know. it would greatly simplify my life and lower the time i need to spend at the AH.
Finally, i am slowly getting to the 200k mark. my plans to reach it by month-end is steady unless i end up taking a few days break. even if i dont reach that goal, i figured it's a whole lot better than not trying at all.
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
Rich is Relative
Last night a "flipper" put up about 200 stacks of Elementium ore for about 37-40g each. my auctionator said there was that many, actually, 194, or something close to that, so i bought them all. If they were all 40g each, i'd be using up 8k gold. the seller thanked me in a whisper and asked if i was going to use it all or flip it. i told him i was going to use it all. he said i just made him a very rich guy. you see, he was a flipper. he watches the AH and looks for deals on whatever it is he wants to flip, then sells them at a later date for more. What i can see from historic prices pre-patch 4.1, is that prices on ores dropped to maybe 35g. so he made about 5g on each stack from me, or about 1,000 gold. minus the 5% AH cut, and he made off with about 950 gold.
i thought for a second and wondered. very rich to him can either mean the net earnings of 950g, or the total revenues of about 7500-8000 gold. for me, i didnt drop below 100k gold throughout the whole buying frenzy (and you know i just hit 100k gold a few days prior). So maybe i did make him really rich. but to me it is an investment in the future. i can turn that 8k gold around and probably end up making over 30k with it. netting me about 20k+ in gold. the only reason i am able to do this is because i have two other characters. one is an alchemist who will gladly make shadowspirit diamonds. the other is an enchanter who will gladly make dust/essences out of some of the alicite pendants i make. to make it even better, she also enchants scrolls and leaves them in the AH (you know, the enchants that people dont make 20 of to level through). my 100k+ gold was made by several people. it wasnt completely my JCer. i have a scribe who funded herself through the entire inscription process (buy mats, make glyphs, sell glyphs, use profits to buy more mats). i make belt buckles, leg armor enchants, glyphs, rare enchants and gems. these are the primary sources of gold for me. but the bulk of the gold comes from JC and the mundane daily activity of relisting expired auctions and crafting more gems to replace the ones that sell. Eventually i will reach 200k. that's my goal for cata. =P and hopefully then, i'll be able to say that im a rich man. again, rich is relative. for me, im still pretty much broke as i see the 100k sitting in my bag as "investment funds". they're there so i can use to make more gold. that is all. anyway, happy tuesday! see you all later!
i thought for a second and wondered. very rich to him can either mean the net earnings of 950g, or the total revenues of about 7500-8000 gold. for me, i didnt drop below 100k gold throughout the whole buying frenzy (and you know i just hit 100k gold a few days prior). So maybe i did make him really rich. but to me it is an investment in the future. i can turn that 8k gold around and probably end up making over 30k with it. netting me about 20k+ in gold. the only reason i am able to do this is because i have two other characters. one is an alchemist who will gladly make shadowspirit diamonds. the other is an enchanter who will gladly make dust/essences out of some of the alicite pendants i make. to make it even better, she also enchants scrolls and leaves them in the AH (you know, the enchants that people dont make 20 of to level through). my 100k+ gold was made by several people. it wasnt completely my JCer. i have a scribe who funded herself through the entire inscription process (buy mats, make glyphs, sell glyphs, use profits to buy more mats). i make belt buckles, leg armor enchants, glyphs, rare enchants and gems. these are the primary sources of gold for me. but the bulk of the gold comes from JC and the mundane daily activity of relisting expired auctions and crafting more gems to replace the ones that sell. Eventually i will reach 200k. that's my goal for cata. =P and hopefully then, i'll be able to say that im a rich man. again, rich is relative. for me, im still pretty much broke as i see the 100k sitting in my bag as "investment funds". they're there so i can use to make more gold. that is all. anyway, happy tuesday! see you all later!
Sunday, May 1, 2011
Hit my WotLK gold goal today!
totally lame that i hit this mark months after cata came out. 100k gold. but i wasnt focused. i just played until it got bored. then played another char or minigame within wow until i got bored of that. maybe im not cut out to be an AH guru. maybe just a user. gem sales are better since patch. =]
Monday, May 24, 2010
Last week's goals
From Last Week:
This weekend's goal:
Get Devynity honored with Lower City
Get Devynity honored with Sha'tar
Get Devynity honored with Cenarion Expedition
Get Devynity friendly with Keepers of time
Get Devynity friendly with a drunk elf
Get key for Shadow Lab
Get key for Tempest Keep Get to 70 (so i can equip most of the gear that will drop in the level 70 dungeons)
Level Krakken, who is currently 75, to at least be 78 (which should be easy considering he's got so much rested exp and im pretty familiar with northrend content.
So i got honored with Lower City. That was quite easy as i've already done a few Crypt/Sethekk halls runs. I only had to do several quests and was done with that. For the Cenarions, i had to do the quests in HFP and then three in Zanga.
I am currently friendly with the Sha'tar and Keepers of Time. Hopefully I can get a durnholde run once in a very logn while.
I am close to honored with the Sha'tar, but half of my Mech/Bot/Alca runs keep turning into wipe fests. Im pretty sure i would have better gear too, but yea.
I found the key for shadow labyrinth by accident. after killing talon king ikiss, i picked up two spirit shards. figuring that i may have missed two from the first boss, i ran back. then i read that someone in my party picked up the shadow labs key. omg omg. so i ran back to the dead talon king and found the chest in the back of his chamber. it was huge. why didnt i see it before? lol.
I leveled Krakken NADA this weekend. he did get one emblem run on friday, and that was all the action he got over the weekend. instead, i took Devynity to Bay of Storms and fished lobsters while waiting for instance queues. yep. got him to Jouneyman and went over to Sholazar to do the daily fishing. So much fun... almost dying. level 70 in a 75 zone isnt too great. maybe it will be better when i hit 72. but anyway. got the ghostfish sucker and yea. psychadelic... in black and white!
one thing about the lobsters is that its used as an easy 5 points from 295 to 300 cooking. Otherwise, someone's going to have to do DM runs for the Tuber recipe (and then find tubers). The darkclaw recipe isnt BOP, so you can find that in the AH. Greater mightfish and sunscale salmon are the other two fish that will get you to 300 easy. I am thinking i will sell each lobster for 5g each. 25g for the last five points to reach 300 cooking skill. that's not too much to pay for. i think i'll be making a few hundred gold, although not all at once. this is one of those slow selling items.
On a good note, i've been making about 210g profit for each Scroll of Enchant Weapon - Agility i post. They never come back unsold. and they always sell for 300g. that's 50% more than what auctioneer saw before. i am aparently the only one selling this stuff now. =]
I say 210 profit because the essence of airs are 60g to buy (though i can buy them for 10g each on certain days), and the shards total about 30g. so that's 90g invested. although i only buy the shards and i "farm for free" the airs. i can farm about 40 airs in about an hour, so that's 600g worth of stuff in one hour. now that 600g isnt going to come instantly. im investing for the long term returns.
2h Agility isnt selling as well though. i'd say the demand for that is 1/4 that of the agility enchant. the only class that will use the 1hander agility is druids. rogues dont have two handers. death knights have their runeforges, and paladins and warriors prefer strength. at least i think that's true. now i know agi increases physical crit, armor and dodge. so these can also be great pvp enchants for any melee class. i do see it selling slowly though. im selling it for only 500g anyway. it may be steep. but look at the rogue that coughed up 600g on a pair of agi for his daggers. the 2hand wielders are getting a 100g break!
In general, things are slowing down. Instances are taking a little longer to start (i imagine a lot of people do not want to do Botanica, mechanar, or Arcatraz. I'd rather do those than go through UK/Nexus again for the 1000th time. What i didnt get at level 69, which was really really dumb on blizzard's part, is i couldnt queue for normal outland randoms. i could not at all. i had to pick them individually. when i hit 70, i could only queue for random outland heroics. now i understand heroics is a 70s thing, but that about mechanar/botanica/arcatraz? shadow labyrinth? shattered halls? in normal? those are level 70 instances!! and at 69 i couldnt queue for ANYTHING in outlands. and at 70 i could only queue for outlands heroics. this is pretty broken if you ask me. even at 70, there's still some folks who would like to join a random for outlands. they beat Utgarde Keep in so many ways really.
And on that note, i'll have to pause and get back to RL work. i'll continue with my analysis shortly, if i have time to spare.
This weekend's goal:
Get Devynity honored with Lower City
Get Devynity honored with Sha'tar
Get Devynity honored with Cenarion Expedition
Get Devynity friendly with Keepers of time
Get Devynity friendly with a drunk elf
Get key for Shadow Lab
Get key for Tempest Keep Get to 70 (so i can equip most of the gear that will drop in the level 70 dungeons)
Level Krakken, who is currently 75, to at least be 78 (which should be easy considering he's got so much rested exp and im pretty familiar with northrend content.
So i got honored with Lower City. That was quite easy as i've already done a few Crypt/Sethekk halls runs. I only had to do several quests and was done with that. For the Cenarions, i had to do the quests in HFP and then three in Zanga.
I am currently friendly with the Sha'tar and Keepers of Time. Hopefully I can get a durnholde run once in a very logn while.
I am close to honored with the Sha'tar, but half of my Mech/Bot/Alca runs keep turning into wipe fests. Im pretty sure i would have better gear too, but yea.
I found the key for shadow labyrinth by accident. after killing talon king ikiss, i picked up two spirit shards. figuring that i may have missed two from the first boss, i ran back. then i read that someone in my party picked up the shadow labs key. omg omg. so i ran back to the dead talon king and found the chest in the back of his chamber. it was huge. why didnt i see it before? lol.
I leveled Krakken NADA this weekend. he did get one emblem run on friday, and that was all the action he got over the weekend. instead, i took Devynity to Bay of Storms and fished lobsters while waiting for instance queues. yep. got him to Jouneyman and went over to Sholazar to do the daily fishing. So much fun... almost dying. level 70 in a 75 zone isnt too great. maybe it will be better when i hit 72. but anyway. got the ghostfish sucker and yea. psychadelic... in black and white!
one thing about the lobsters is that its used as an easy 5 points from 295 to 300 cooking. Otherwise, someone's going to have to do DM runs for the Tuber recipe (and then find tubers). The darkclaw recipe isnt BOP, so you can find that in the AH. Greater mightfish and sunscale salmon are the other two fish that will get you to 300 easy. I am thinking i will sell each lobster for 5g each. 25g for the last five points to reach 300 cooking skill. that's not too much to pay for. i think i'll be making a few hundred gold, although not all at once. this is one of those slow selling items.
On a good note, i've been making about 210g profit for each Scroll of Enchant Weapon - Agility i post. They never come back unsold. and they always sell for 300g. that's 50% more than what auctioneer saw before. i am aparently the only one selling this stuff now. =]
I say 210 profit because the essence of airs are 60g to buy (though i can buy them for 10g each on certain days), and the shards total about 30g. so that's 90g invested. although i only buy the shards and i "farm for free" the airs. i can farm about 40 airs in about an hour, so that's 600g worth of stuff in one hour. now that 600g isnt going to come instantly. im investing for the long term returns.
2h Agility isnt selling as well though. i'd say the demand for that is 1/4 that of the agility enchant. the only class that will use the 1hander agility is druids. rogues dont have two handers. death knights have their runeforges, and paladins and warriors prefer strength. at least i think that's true. now i know agi increases physical crit, armor and dodge. so these can also be great pvp enchants for any melee class. i do see it selling slowly though. im selling it for only 500g anyway. it may be steep. but look at the rogue that coughed up 600g on a pair of agi for his daggers. the 2hand wielders are getting a 100g break!
In general, things are slowing down. Instances are taking a little longer to start (i imagine a lot of people do not want to do Botanica, mechanar, or Arcatraz. I'd rather do those than go through UK/Nexus again for the 1000th time. What i didnt get at level 69, which was really really dumb on blizzard's part, is i couldnt queue for normal outland randoms. i could not at all. i had to pick them individually. when i hit 70, i could only queue for random outland heroics. now i understand heroics is a 70s thing, but that about mechanar/botanica/arcatraz? shadow labyrinth? shattered halls? in normal? those are level 70 instances!! and at 69 i couldnt queue for ANYTHING in outlands. and at 70 i could only queue for outlands heroics. this is pretty broken if you ask me. even at 70, there's still some folks who would like to join a random for outlands. they beat Utgarde Keep in so many ways really.
And on that note, i'll have to pause and get back to RL work. i'll continue with my analysis shortly, if i have time to spare.
Wednesday, April 14, 2010
Making gold on a low pop server
This is not a guide on how to make gold on a low pop server. There are plenty of other blogs out there, as well as forums and guides, that will help you with this endeavor.
I find myself mistified, somewhat disallusioned, that my auctions on my new, low pop server have ended without sales. srsly, when i post gem sales on my medium pop server, i usually sell at least half of them during prime time, then the other half gets relisted (due to undercutters) before going to bed to sell to the overnight market, and i end up with a good amount of gold (even with late night undercutters, or early morning undercutters jumping in). but in my low pop server, i find that there is very little demand for gems, and perhaps that is the reason for the low prices of some of these gems.
lets take an example. titanium ore. this goes for about 275-300 gold a stack on my medium pop server. in my low pop server, they are at 200-250 gold. that's not bad considering gem prices are lower to match supply prices. Basically, the price for ore is set by the demand for gems primarily, and to a lesser degree, metal bars for crafting engineering and bs products.
Since demand on my low pop server is low, prices are low-"er". i find myself in competition with several other gem cutters, which makes supply, or at least, availabily, high. low demand and high supply equals low sales. So what will sell well in a low pop environment? There have been some sales, however. I will not lie. some gems do sell. of the initial, say, 500g i've spent on saronite ore, i made about 500g in return. about 300-350g was on cut gems, and the rest were on selling raw chalcedonys, bloodstones, sun crystals, etc. i dont have accurate figures.
One thing i do notice is that low level crafting mats do sell well. especially for those leveling professions. also, i do see leveling byproducts on the market often. if you go to any of the resource sites with leveling guides, and just check out, say, jewelcrafting or blacksmithing, or leatherworking or whatnot, just make a list of some of the items they suggest you make in order to level your profession. now, go to the AH and search for it. Take, for instance, Pendant of the Agate Shield. Im not going to link it. you can wowhead/alak/thobott it yourself. but when i searched it the other night, i saw 20. yes, someone made 20 to level up JC. propbably for 15 skill points. then moved on. there's a bunch of these out there. people are just tossing these up for half the price of mats, just to get rid of it. i think i'll level a new character and learn enchanting. this may be a prime server to level enchanting. but then again, i havent researched this with medium pop or high pop servers either. so i dont know. i just see the opportunity is there.
What did sell for me? Copper at 15g/stack. Tin at 20g/stack, Iron at 20g/stack. Mithril, depending on time of the week (there's some idiot with 100 million stacks of it posting on certain days) it can go for as low as 30g/stack to as high as 45g/stack. Thorium is a mystery to me. It went for 13g/st on one day (which i should have snatched 20 stacks up) and 35g/st another day. i guess not too many people got the memo that thorium grows like weeds in un-goro crater. but this leads me to think that if someone, or maybe two or three people, are leveling mining at the same time, and happen to be selling their freshly-gathered thorium ores, that the market will drop really fast. there is, after all, less people leveling BS, JC or Eng. so the ores will stay in the AH just a tad longer, long enough for the other guy, who's been collecting thorium in EPL, to drop his cache in the AH at a lower price.
But in a low pop server, what's to do at end levels? for a few, they'd level alts. what attracts new players? a server that's low in population or high? for many people, a low pop server will be less overwhelming and offer more chances to cross paths with people they've met. so with this ASSUMPTION in mind, i think that the most money will be made in the leveling area of progression, and not the end game.
I say this only with the experince of a miner. for cloth, leather, or even fish, it may not apply. but i've found that ore prices, per stack, are ranked as follows:
Titanium
Adamantite/Khorium
Mithril
Cobalt/Fel Iron/Thorium (apart from that strange night where they were going for cheap)
Tin/Iron
Copper/Saronite
Eternium
Dark Iron
Lesser Bloodstone (lol)
So, a low level beginner can pick up mining and earn as much gold as a 77 running around through StormPeaks mining. imagine that. on my server Adamantite is going for 40-50g. i've made about 2k gold just mining in nagrand while waiting for queues (yes, my dk is q-ing as dps) and earning maghar rep. i have a talbuk. =] what's sad is that when i was ready to hit northrend, i stayed in nagrand. but i really didnt care. i just wanted to mine on my slowflyer and finish up maghar rep. so that's what i did until level 70. By the time i was ready (last friday), i went and bought most of the mats needed to level JC. i also had to run around and mine mithril since no one was selling mithril on that day (odd how that one guy who was selling a million stacks did not relist that day, but decidedly undercut me a few days prior). also, i had about 5 stacks of adamantite that i had in my bags, so i bought another 5 stacks and prospected most. i did have to make some bars, turn the dust into mercurial, and make a few rings and chains. I started that day with a little over 3k gold. i ended up with about 1.5k gold. it wasnt that hard to level JC. there are some overpriced items, like moss agate, and small lustrous pearls, but other than that, the prices for mats were decent.
What i did find out:
- Gems from prospected thorium can make a profit, if you buy thorium at a good price. Blue sapphires, star rubies and the yellow one (i forget the name, i'll edit it later) are worthless. but huge emeralds, large opals, and something else, i forget. i'll look it up, but those gems are worth 10g-15g each. so depending on what i am prospecting, i can actually make some gold on my investment.
- gems from outland are, for the most part, worthless, though you might be able to sell your uncut leftovers to those who will not be prospecting ore. but i do like to prospect adamantite for the the dust. the cut gems do not sell well. try to sell the uncut golden dreanites for more tho, as those are the only ones i can think of that sell well. they are pricey due to its demand to make normal flying carpets.
- skip the outland blue gem cuts (350-375). they're useless. skip straight to northred green cuts at 350.
- be friendly with lower city. there's one green cut from the quartermaster that will get you to 350.
that's all i can think of right now. in any case, JC didnt cost me as much as i thought, tho i really stopped at 420 to pick up the dailies and the rare cuts from dalaran. the rest will come in time as i gain more recipes. i still have 8 more levels to... level. so im not even in a hurry to get to 450. those skill levels will come in time.
overall, JC is making me some gold at my level, and has left me with nothing to do between instance queues but quest. i dont really run around mining and killing ogres for their beads any more. yay for that. onwards to gaining rep! Kaluakk for the chest piece and design. then off to either the wolvars or oracles. then.... heroics design drops and faction rep bought designs. i'll have most of the cuts soon enough.
I find myself mistified, somewhat disallusioned, that my auctions on my new, low pop server have ended without sales. srsly, when i post gem sales on my medium pop server, i usually sell at least half of them during prime time, then the other half gets relisted (due to undercutters) before going to bed to sell to the overnight market, and i end up with a good amount of gold (even with late night undercutters, or early morning undercutters jumping in). but in my low pop server, i find that there is very little demand for gems, and perhaps that is the reason for the low prices of some of these gems.
lets take an example. titanium ore. this goes for about 275-300 gold a stack on my medium pop server. in my low pop server, they are at 200-250 gold. that's not bad considering gem prices are lower to match supply prices. Basically, the price for ore is set by the demand for gems primarily, and to a lesser degree, metal bars for crafting engineering and bs products.
Since demand on my low pop server is low, prices are low-"er". i find myself in competition with several other gem cutters, which makes supply, or at least, availabily, high. low demand and high supply equals low sales. So what will sell well in a low pop environment? There have been some sales, however. I will not lie. some gems do sell. of the initial, say, 500g i've spent on saronite ore, i made about 500g in return. about 300-350g was on cut gems, and the rest were on selling raw chalcedonys, bloodstones, sun crystals, etc. i dont have accurate figures.
One thing i do notice is that low level crafting mats do sell well. especially for those leveling professions. also, i do see leveling byproducts on the market often. if you go to any of the resource sites with leveling guides, and just check out, say, jewelcrafting or blacksmithing, or leatherworking or whatnot, just make a list of some of the items they suggest you make in order to level your profession. now, go to the AH and search for it. Take, for instance, Pendant of the Agate Shield. Im not going to link it. you can wowhead/alak/thobott it yourself. but when i searched it the other night, i saw 20. yes, someone made 20 to level up JC. propbably for 15 skill points. then moved on. there's a bunch of these out there. people are just tossing these up for half the price of mats, just to get rid of it. i think i'll level a new character and learn enchanting. this may be a prime server to level enchanting. but then again, i havent researched this with medium pop or high pop servers either. so i dont know. i just see the opportunity is there.
What did sell for me? Copper at 15g/stack. Tin at 20g/stack, Iron at 20g/stack. Mithril, depending on time of the week (there's some idiot with 100 million stacks of it posting on certain days) it can go for as low as 30g/stack to as high as 45g/stack. Thorium is a mystery to me. It went for 13g/st on one day (which i should have snatched 20 stacks up) and 35g/st another day. i guess not too many people got the memo that thorium grows like weeds in un-goro crater. but this leads me to think that if someone, or maybe two or three people, are leveling mining at the same time, and happen to be selling their freshly-gathered thorium ores, that the market will drop really fast. there is, after all, less people leveling BS, JC or Eng. so the ores will stay in the AH just a tad longer, long enough for the other guy, who's been collecting thorium in EPL, to drop his cache in the AH at a lower price.
But in a low pop server, what's to do at end levels? for a few, they'd level alts. what attracts new players? a server that's low in population or high? for many people, a low pop server will be less overwhelming and offer more chances to cross paths with people they've met. so with this ASSUMPTION in mind, i think that the most money will be made in the leveling area of progression, and not the end game.
I say this only with the experince of a miner. for cloth, leather, or even fish, it may not apply. but i've found that ore prices, per stack, are ranked as follows:
Titanium
Adamantite/Khorium
Mithril
Cobalt/Fel Iron/Thorium (apart from that strange night where they were going for cheap)
Tin/Iron
Copper/Saronite
Eternium
Dark Iron
Lesser Bloodstone (lol)
So, a low level beginner can pick up mining and earn as much gold as a 77 running around through StormPeaks mining. imagine that. on my server Adamantite is going for 40-50g. i've made about 2k gold just mining in nagrand while waiting for queues (yes, my dk is q-ing as dps) and earning maghar rep. i have a talbuk. =] what's sad is that when i was ready to hit northrend, i stayed in nagrand. but i really didnt care. i just wanted to mine on my slowflyer and finish up maghar rep. so that's what i did until level 70. By the time i was ready (last friday), i went and bought most of the mats needed to level JC. i also had to run around and mine mithril since no one was selling mithril on that day (odd how that one guy who was selling a million stacks did not relist that day, but decidedly undercut me a few days prior). also, i had about 5 stacks of adamantite that i had in my bags, so i bought another 5 stacks and prospected most. i did have to make some bars, turn the dust into mercurial, and make a few rings and chains. I started that day with a little over 3k gold. i ended up with about 1.5k gold. it wasnt that hard to level JC. there are some overpriced items, like moss agate, and small lustrous pearls, but other than that, the prices for mats were decent.
What i did find out:
- Gems from prospected thorium can make a profit, if you buy thorium at a good price. Blue sapphires, star rubies and the yellow one (i forget the name, i'll edit it later) are worthless. but huge emeralds, large opals, and something else, i forget. i'll look it up, but those gems are worth 10g-15g each. so depending on what i am prospecting, i can actually make some gold on my investment.
- gems from outland are, for the most part, worthless, though you might be able to sell your uncut leftovers to those who will not be prospecting ore. but i do like to prospect adamantite for the the dust. the cut gems do not sell well. try to sell the uncut golden dreanites for more tho, as those are the only ones i can think of that sell well. they are pricey due to its demand to make normal flying carpets.
- skip the outland blue gem cuts (350-375). they're useless. skip straight to northred green cuts at 350.
- be friendly with lower city. there's one green cut from the quartermaster that will get you to 350.
that's all i can think of right now. in any case, JC didnt cost me as much as i thought, tho i really stopped at 420 to pick up the dailies and the rare cuts from dalaran. the rest will come in time as i gain more recipes. i still have 8 more levels to... level. so im not even in a hurry to get to 450. those skill levels will come in time.
overall, JC is making me some gold at my level, and has left me with nothing to do between instance queues but quest. i dont really run around mining and killing ogres for their beads any more. yay for that. onwards to gaining rep! Kaluakk for the chest piece and design. then off to either the wolvars or oracles. then.... heroics design drops and faction rep bought designs. i'll have most of the cuts soon enough.
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