Tanks and Their Need for DPS Gear, Pt. 2

I understand the game mechanics, that if you can roll "need" on an item, that it's fine to roll need on it.  No one will stop you. Blizz will not "punish" you since they gave you the option to roll need.  But there are some social mores out there that tells people not to roll need on offspec items unless no one else needs it.  There have been so many jerk tanks (my gf when leveling her DK had to deal with this constantly) who need on dps plate and dps weapons and accessories it annoyed me to no end.  Then one day, i just accepted the fact that these guys will do what they do, and there is nothing i can really do, besides preemptively making a snide remark as we watch the /roll fall out.  I am ok with it.  i really am. i still dont like it, but i have come to the point where these things do not really matter anyway. 

I was on my paladin last night in two very fail groups that kept dying to things, first in ZA, and then another random in ZG.  However, we did prevail once people understood the fight the first time around.  The 1st tank wasnt stellar, but he had enough play time to know how each fight went.  He didnt quite understand the dragonhawk boss mechanic, but he knew to kill one of the hatchers.  What i can see from this is that he's been through this on an alt or on his current character as dps. Now he's tanking it as a warrior. we went through the whole instance with about five or six wipes. not too bad, but not nearly what i am used to.

The second group was a ZG group that started off dead.  Actually, i joined at the snake boss fight, with the tank and a dps dead (same guild).  I lasted about 30 seconds getting the boss from 40% to 20%.  then died with the other dps and healer.  we redid the fight a couple of times.  I should have left, but i persevered.  Either i have a lot of patience or a lot of hope in these people.  Now i am not saying i am the greatest, but i am saying i know mechanics enough to not die.  well, what happend was this.  We went on to 1-shot the Ogan boss, but died to trash along the way.  We wiped once and nearly wiped again on one of the archeology bosses.  It was the one that enrages and does a pursuit.  We 1-shot the cat lady but wiped once to Zanzil.  Now i know Zanzil because he's infamous for giving my hunter Zulian Slicers (useless) and almost never drops it for my DK.  Also, my gf has been waiting for him to drop his plate healing shoulderpads for a month, but hasnt.  I am beginning to think that the shoulderpads doesnt exist.  anyway. he killed us the first time due to summoning poison cauldron first.  healer dies but we manage to avoid damage until he summoned the zerker. we all die to the zerker.  the second attempt was awesome mainly because he summoned the little skeletons first.  all three melees grabbed the fire cauldron so we can do some extra dps on the boss.  by the time he was ready to summon a zerker (2nd cauldron call), he was dead.  easy if the RNG is right.  somewhat difficult if the RNG goes to the zerker (just kite for a while). but difficult if he does poison because all of the dps loses the fire buff.

Now on to jin-do and we 1shot him. wow.  awesome sauce.  the 2hand hammer drops and i need on it.  20 seconds later, the tank needs it, gets it, and promptly leaves group.  as if it was some easy way of "getting away with it".  although i can totally tell and if i get into a group with her again, i will promptly ignore her, need on all the tanking stuffs, then leave group.  oh and i will do this as a healer too, so he will die and suffer a repair bill.  or maybe i can pretend i was afk.  haha. baby aggro.  no one knows.  yea. blizz, please have me play with this ninja tank again so i can be a jerk. some people just deserve it.

Now i did not need on the tanking necklace (although i greeded it just in case, instead of disenchanting it) that dropped. Nor did i need on the tanking sword that dropped from Ohgan boss.  I know the dino is maned Ohgan because he keeps calling him during the fight. but for the life of me, i dont know the boss' name.

Anyway, i can understand why some tanks will need on dps gear.  It's for their dps set, and some people can rock it and some people are just horrible at it.  i am not sure how i can fix this issue.  i really dont want to actually. i say if they're able to roll need then they can.  but only if the mainspec dps who would benefit from that item pass, greeds or disenchants it.  surely, going to someone who might use it sometimes is better than going to someone who will just vendor it or shard it.  anyway, i am not mad. just disappointed in people.

Overall, i am ok doing 12-15k dps on bosses rockin a Wild Hammer from normal mode Grim Batol.