IIC geared, 6k dps makin, lazer chicken annoyed me the other night.
I was on krak trying to get some more ilevel200 gear and ended up with utgarde keep. got a paladin tank (and i know paladin tanks!) thats pretty well geared, ilevel 230+ which seems to be a nice mix of emblem gear, ToC and ICC gear all up in there somewhere. Boomkin was similar. The healer? not too sure but he kept us up pretty well. There was a warrior in the group who just dinged 80 the night before doing about 1.6k dps. nice dps. =]
So there we go, boomkin doing his hurricane spell hitting everyone and getting 6k dps out of an easy aoe fest (since you know, paladins are king of tanking aoe) and im having a blast timing my howling blast and managing my killing machine procs. sure, the mobs die after two hits (no really, for most of these pulls, i couldnt even get past the 5 second mark on the first mob. and for dk's 6 seconds is when pestilence comes in (1.5 seconds wait + 1.5 seconds icy touch + 1.5 seconds plague strike, then we can do pestilence at the 6 second mark) so my dps was pretty much crap. for many fights, i've realized that the longer the fight, the better my dps becomes. this is true because the first 6 seconds of the fight, i am setting up my diseases, which really doesnt do much damage. it isnt until everything kicks in and my diseases have good time to tick away that the dps numbers level out to where im usually at, which is 2.0k dps. some days 1.8k, some days 2.2k, it all depends really. so i round it out to 2k.
So after the second boss fight (you know the two guys who's starin at each other) the boomkin says that the dps should be doing a whole lot more dps than the tank. i replied with, no, no we shouldnt.
then the boomkin laughs and says no, you should. in which i replied with, take a look at the tank's gear and our gear, dumbass. then i said to better check himself before he wrecks himself. i didnt wanna complete the phrase since, you know, its pretty obvious.
he then went on and i went on but he did seem to realize he was in error. that a dps dk with ilevel 200 gear (about five or six pieces only, the rest are 170+) should be doing 2k dps. should be. heck, two years ago i was stuck in a naxx group who couldnt do it because there was one dps who was doing 2.2k while the rest were doing 1.2k, 1.4k, etc. i was doing 2.0k dps in my "crap" gear. heck, i dont even think i upgraded anything since that run. you can armory me now. krakkenskull on ysondre. go ahead. he's got purple bracers and probably purple pants. the rest were blue. he's got hodir rep shoulder enchants but is too cheap to get the head enchant from the ebon blade. also his gems are not epic, they're rare "blue" gems. he's got one tbc enchant on his bracers and maybe on his gloves. his weapons are the hodir rep axes with mainhand enchanted with fallen crusader and offhand enchanted with razorice. ... ... ... doing 2k dps. i think thats fair. i think thats great. actually i dont think you can maximize dps any more than you can unless the fights were a bit longer so that i can keep my diseases uptime at 100%. maybe also get a few lucky procs and crits in there too.
but yea, i was a bit annoyed. the warrior spoke up at the end of the instance, telling the boomkin to stfu and that he just dinged 80 the other night, so theres absolutely no way he'll be out-dpsing a tank thats basically doing IIC runs. a druid, maybe, but a paladin? nope. not even gonna come close.
and again with the ilevel200 (and maybe the higher level gear from Trial, Forge, Pit, and Halls) i dont expect krakken to get past 2.5k dps in group fights and 2.0k dps in single boss fights.
Why does it matter what my dps is? it really doesnt. i am only doing heroics. heroics that are a precursor to NAXX. yes, NAXX of all things. so with people doing 3k dps, and others doing 2k dps, we more than out-dps heroic instances by 2x already. why should my dps be higher so that this boomkin could breeze through H.Utgarde keep faster? and how much faster? not too sure. its already on ludacris speed, why do we need to go any faster? srsly, i wasnt able to "pestilence" at all in most of those fights. we killed kileseth before he even did a frost tomb on us, which got me the achievement, "on the rocks".
so now, hopefully, we have a better boomkin whos able to actually inspect people who are doing "lowly" 2k damage and see that maybe they're just starting on their heroic runs (actually i have 190 triumph emblems i havent used, about 80 from finishing the bg's and the rest looted from bosses. i keep my fingers crossed that these guys dont remain "fail" in life, but are actually able to become better people through this experience.
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
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I haven't done heroics in almost 2 months now I think. Least 1 month. But yea, most if not all--except when I'm running with guildies and I know I can slack a bit :P--i top the meters. I check people's dps too and gear. I don't know exactly how much a person should be doing but if a 5.5k GS (tri, u should run it btw :P) is doing 2k dps, there's something wrong. I usually don't mind outdpsing others, cuz personally I just wanna always do my best even in heroics. Sometimes I call people out if I know they should be doing more. I usually check out the dps first, hmm..pretty low. I check their gear. Ah...okay, that's why. If I can tell they're new, I don't have a problem. It's when people who are geared who expect to be carried are slacking, that's when I point it out and usually they start to do better. lol.
ReplyDeletei really dont worry about people's dps. its a heroic so i dont really care of they do 1.5k dps, or if they're doing 5k dps. i will look at the gear of the 1.5k dps guy and see if he's actually in blues. but other than that, and since tanks' dps can vary by a lot, as long as they're not pulling 900dps, in heroics, im fine. i didnt even worry about the warrior that was in our group. he was doing less dps than me and probably should be doing a little more, but i wont nit pick. if they'll have to learn to dps, they'll have to learn it when they raid. heroics is never a measure of anyone's real ability anyway.
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